All the buzz is about Jill Watkins on the Dr. Phil Steubenville show…

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  1. Maybe that mom should have had that mole removed before she went on national tv.

  2. Be very afraid!!!! That is one angry cougar and you are trashing her prey!!

  3. I feel bad for Steubenville having a raving lunatic like her representing them on TV. I also liked how the other woman said, if Jill and her son were so scared then why are the running to all the news shows and flying out to LA to be on TV to talk about it? Not too scared is she?

  4. Please someone help me get removed from this woman’s face!!

    • Now, Milly, we can clearly see you are upset. And I agree, it’s unjust that you poor, defenseless moles (notice the absence of the word “little” there…) have no say in what vile creatures end up attached to you.

      But try and see the bright side of this: Aren’t there much, MUCH worse locations on this woman’s body you could have found yourself?

      If you’re smart, Milly, you’ll work this to your advantage. You become a separate entity at just the right time and you’ve got yourself one nice tax deduction come April.

      • Maybe a surgeon was watching the show and will give me a reality show of my own to remove me from this she-man! Help me docs, your my only hope!

        • We don’t know for sure if she can survive once removed from you, Milly! We’ll need to run extensive tests before proceeding here.

          It’s already quite obvious from what we’ve seen so far that her brain does not have its own blood supply, and that she’s been leeching off of you since she became attached to you in your sleep one night.

          So we not only have to consider her viability once surgeons remove her from you, but the potential impact on society around her should she get even dumber and more ignorant than she already is.

          The damages from pain and suffering from all of those innocent victims could be considerable, and completely wipe you out financially.

  5. Scooby, you hit the mole on the chin with that one!

    Why put yourself like that on TV for all the world to see? If it was to be the mouthpiece for the group trying to speak on behalf of kids they sure did a bang up job and not in a “lets promote our positive vibe” and get marketing help kind of way. I would not donate a darn thing to this woman or her cause.

  6. Isn’t funny how when asked if it was possible the victim is telling the truth her only answer was to ask is it possible she was lying. Notice she NEVER agreed that it was possible she was telling the truth. That in and of itself is victim blaming!

  7. Well done: “Demigod” Radio…I will stay away from the Stupidville posters but gal you nailed it!! No better way to know that you have hit a nerve than to get angry responses…

  8. There are two different and distinct aspects to the Steubenville Rape Case. One is simply the guilt or innocence of the accused. Normally, as in all other criminal cases, juvenile or adult, the justice system works properly. The prosecutor presents his or her case with evidence and testimony that would prove guilt. The defendant is presumed innocent and needs to present nothing. Once the prosecution has proven it’s case beyond a reasonable doubt, then the defense has the opportunity to negate that guilt by presentation of evidence and testimony.

    “Reasonable doubt” however is not “beyond a shadow of a doubt”. It is not beyond all possible doubt. The standard for guilt or no guilt, is did the prosecution present enough evidence to show guilt based upon reason and common sense. That, of course, is a simplification of the law. It is more definitive than that. If there were a jury trial, the trial judge would give detailed jury instructions concerning the burden of the state to prove its case.

    In the present case, the trial judge, a retired juvenile court judge with over 37 years experience in the juvenile justice system doesn’t need such explanations of the law. He is one of the upmost authorities on Juvenile Justice in Ohio. You can read his biograpgy and credentials by a search of the internet.

    The second distinct aspect of the present case is the issue of alleged “cover-up.” That is what has brought this case to the national spotlight. Had everything run smoothly in the criminal justice system, the way it was meant to run, there would never have been a public outcry.

    In this case, the sole blame for the trashing of the criminal justice system and the trashing of Steubenville/Jeffeson County lies solely at the feet of the inexperience prosecutor, Jane Hanlin, and her democratic party handlers that put her in office.

    The dysfunctions in the Steubenville/Jefferson County legal and political system began when Jane Hanllin was elevated to the title of prosecuting attorney by Jefferson County Democratic Party Chairman John Abdalla (Mayor of Stratton, Ohio) and Vice-Chairman Frank Bruzzese (law director for the Village of Stratton). John Abdalla and Frank Bruzzese are also the democratic representative of the four person local Board of Elections.

    Jane Hanlin never had to work in the trenches and cut her teeth in the field of criminal law and ethics like most prosecutors. She was merely the law partner of Frank Bruzzese. Their control of the democratic party and their convincing of the central and exective committies of that party, enabled her unopposed assention to the top law enforcement spot of the county.

    She was unlawfully a member of the school board while she was an assistant prosecutor for 8 years or so. Her allegience to the Steubenville School System, its faculty, administration, students and fellow board members was legendary. Her co-school Board Member was the wife of her law partner, Frank Bruzzese. Another co-school board member was the brother-in-law of another law partner, Emanuella Agresta.

    Jane Hanlin’s children are the recipients of awards and scholarships from the Steubenville School System. Jane Hanlin testified on behalf of a convicted former Steubenville High School wrester in West Virginia. She did so, so she said, because the convicted armed felon robber was a friend of her son, another Steubenville High School wrester and foootball player. She testified she knew the convicted robber and that his actions were simply “out of character.”

    The day the alleged rape occurred and the victim’s parents went to the Steubenville Police, is the day allegations of cover-up could have been quelled at the outset. Jane Hanlin knew she had a conflict. Not only is it an ethical consideration you learn in law school, but it is an ethical principal adhered to by common, decent people. Most without college degrees.

    Jane Hanlin had an obligation immediatly to do nothing but divorce herself from the case and seek the immediate appointment of a special prosecutor. Steubenville, which was supposedly handling the investigation, has their own legal and prosecutorial department which could have advised the police regarding any investigation. Gary Repella is the law director and John Mascio, Jr. is the police prosecutor. Both of those individuals had been practicing criminal law and procedure for decades before Jane Hanlin even had thoughts of going to law school and while she was still a secretary for the local hospital.

    There was no need for her to rush into the case, unless there was an ulterior purpose and motive. The case became tainted the moment Jane Hanlin refused to honor her ethical obligations as a lawyer and a law-abiding citizen.

    But, Jane Hanlin’s handlers, after the *@%X hit the fan, didn’t know enough to stay out of the fray. For some reason, Jane Hanlin’s law partner, Frank Bruzzese, chose to get involved and has exasberated the situation to the furtherest borders of the land.

    He has used his facebook page to condemn others, he has stirred up the locals alleging our children are being harmed. “Do we protect our children? Do we?”

    The real question to Mr. Bruzzese is: “Do you protect your personal and financial interests above justice?” “Do you?’

    The history of the Bruzzese grab for power is well documented. In order to restore integrity to the Steubenville/Jefferson County legal and justice system, Jane Hanlin should immediately resign from office. Frank Bruzzese and John Abdalla should resign as leaders of the local democratic party and members of the county board of elections.

    The members of the Jefferson County Democratic Executive and Central Committies ought to have enough guts to call a special meeting to save their image now. Both the National Democratic and Republic parties have called upon their own public officials to resign from office when they have become an embarrasment to the party and threaten harm to other public officials in the party.

    It’s time to do the right thing. If you don’t do it now,the integrity of Steubenville/Jefferson County will always be jaundiced. Think of the people of this community for once and not youerselves. Maybe someday the electorate will have the guts to do the right thing in the future. But, that is only if the local bar association ever gets the guts to run for office against the Bruzzese machine.

    Sorry Frank Bruzzese, your legal legacy can no longer be that of a genius, public servant who gave up being a law professor at Harvard or Yale for the benefit of the community. Your leacy now is and will always be one of greed, cover-up and self-interest.

    • Hark the “Harold” angel sings!!!!

      We love you HS, keep it comin’

    • Frank Bruzzese’s downfall was the day he met hospital secretary Jane Hanlin years ago at the St. John Hospital (now Trinity Medical Center) and they began working “closely” together. He isn’t the first person who’s carreer has been ruined by “the scent of a woman.”
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      The Above is Opinion Only and is not meant to portray any actual persons or events. Any resemblence to actual persons or events is purely coincidental.

      • Down with OPP...Hanlin knows me!

        I have heard the rumblings from the locals as well and the FB post awhile ago defending her honor pretty much solidified it for me and the older locals of the Ville. Interesting.

    • LOVE Mr Harold, watch your back! and may G-d bless you and keep you!

  9. @Harold Star: I really hope many read what you had to say. I do however have a suspicion your thoughts have been suppressed for public consumption by your location.

  10. I think Jilly has some real high hopes for herself LOL

    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/jillybeauty/jillicious.jpg

    jillicious? roflmaooooooooo Nothing like photoshopping your head on top of someone elses body on the cover of Hustler But hey I hear tell she’s a “Good Christian” woman LOL

    Or how about a nice drunk Jilly? No wonder the kids in this town think it’s OK to upload their drunk videos online for all to see. Is it any wonder why her son found no problem with what his friends are acussed of?

    http://s69.beta.photobucket.com/user/jillybeauty/media/makeawish181.mp4.html?sort=3&o=1

    • What is it about these people’s strange need to put themselves on exhibit on the internet? Narcicism, or low self-esteem? What a class act…

  11. I am as angry over the school threats as anyone. But I want to know who everyone is angry at? The people who wouldn’t be silenced or the kids and adults who would tell until there was enough noise?

    A point directed to Jill, you are assuming the girl could be lying. She never brought it up, THE BOYS DID!! Her parents acted in her best interest. Who’s lying? The boys?

    One final thought is there seems to be no dispute that bad behavior was happening that night. Where is parental discipline? If my kid was drinking, drugging, and sex at 16 years of age he would not be hanging with the same group of kids even in sports,no phone, no internet, no life. When do we hold parents accountable for not disciplining their own kids.

    • My child would not be allowed to participate in the football program as long as coach Sockpuppet is heading the program. I would NEVER put my child in a position to be mentored by that filthy old dirtbag.

  12. She said HIGH SCHOOL age kids are peeing their pants because of this? Pussies.

    • Hi Executioner, If I am not mistaken, the high school and elementary school share the same building. Personally I can’t imagine wanting my young kids in the same school as high school kids. I would want them as far away from older kids as possible.

      Many people have been searching and there is not one article not one comment anywhere on line stating that kids are buiding tents with their desks puking and peeing themselves. So I do not believe for one minute that it is really happening.

      But, let’s say it is happening for one minute, why would parents allow their young kids to even watch the news to hear these “stories”? Do they not filter what their young ones watch? Is this one of the many reasons why these kids grow up to be desensitized to crimes especially ones so violent as rape?? Course when you have a Mom like Malik Richmond’s who posts on her FB stuff like this…

      “Daphane Burden
      Friday, January 11 at 1:22pm via mobile
      so irritated can’t even be sick Fucking kids cryin an fighting ill be wrong if I spank them asses. so ill lock myself in my room an don’t Fucking bother me SHIT!!!”

      I doubt there’s much filtering going on there. (BTW Yes that’s her page, she closed her other one and opened this one changing the spelling of her first and last names and removing Richmond from her name.)

      • The high school was never on lockdown. It was Harding Middle School which is outside the football stadium. I think she just wanted a free trip to LA. What a joke of an excuse for a parent she is.

        • ALL STEUBENVILLE CITY SCHOOLS WERE ON LOCK DOWN! GET UR FUCKIN STORY STRAIGHT LOSER

          • Nice. Let’s keep that warm fuzzy Steubenville feeling going.

          • Yes and the lockdown was brief lifted in less than two hours. There were no kids building tents peeing on themselves.
            If there were then the ethics of the teachers come into question. I’m not 100% on the law but I’m pretty sure Ohio educational procedures outline a way to keep the children calm in these kinds of situations. Why did the teachers fail to keep the children calm? Children building tents and urinating on themselves would be a result of the teacher inciting a state of panic. What is it that the teachers told these children? I have family who has their children in Garfield and Pugliese. Their children weren’t notified of the lockdown, they just continued working like normal unaware of what was going on. The threat was made against one student at Harding. I am to assume that the classrooms my family had their children in are unique and that the rest of them were incited into an uncontrollable state of panic that they ended up urinating on themselves? No, I’ll believe the children in family that go to these schools. It’s disgusting that a student at Big Red high school in standing up for the victim was attacked by other students and she is the one now in trouble. The school system sickens me. They didn’t hold the boys accountable to begin with because they didn’t think they did anything wrong. The principal or super should have stepped in at that point and said Reno this is why we are educators we need to educate them so they know why their actions were wrong and they’re being benched pending the outcome of the investigation. Instead they were benched 8 games out of a 10 game regular season. Then again Shawn Crosier is as incompetent as they come. He said during the NYT article that he wasn’t aware of what happened to the victim until the Oct probable cause hearing. In August two star football players were arrested and charged with rape, kidnapping, and illegal use of a minor in nudity oriented material. Jefferson County Sheriff Deputies had also showed up at the football field to confiscate cell phones. They took the phones because there was a good chance there was evidence on the phones so why as the principal did he not step in and say to those who had a phone confiscated: You’re benched pending the outcome of the investigation? He failed to do right by those boys, not holding them accountable for their actions will only hurt them in the long run. Turning a blind eye isn’t doing them any favors.

            • I want to make it clear I in no way think any teacher acted inappropriately. I believe my family’s children when they say they were not notified of the lockdown, that is was not a big deal, and that the lockdown was lifted soon after it was in place. I think the teachers did a great job of keeping the children calm and that is my point Jill is a liar and is only making the teachers look bad with her lies. If the students were cowering behind desks and urinating on themselves then people are going to want to know what is was the teacher told the students so If there are any teachers reading this talk to Jill and tell her to stop lying about what goes in your classroom because after all it is your classroom.

        • I stand corrected, all Steubenville Schools were on a lockdown “initiated shortly after 8:30 a.m. Tuesday after City Police received a phone call from the mother of a city school student. According to the police report, the student had stayed home sick Tuesday and “observed a threat on his Facebook page that was originally a Tweet from KnightSec that stated the kids who have not been charged in the rape case were to come to a certain location or ‘I am going to start killing people.’” The juvenile further stated that he tried to access the Tweet again but it had disappeared.” -- from the Herald-Star.

          Is that better Moron or should I use CAPS and cuss?

    • SHE MEANT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS THAT ARE IN THE HIGHSCHOOL ASSHOLE!! SMDH

      • Thankful to not be local.

        Looks like another local joined the fray with their encouraging positivity via Jill Watkins!! I feel the positive energy of your post “moron”. Funny, elementary kids parents we have spoken to have not said this nor has local media reported on this horrendous story that would have garnered someone’s attention if true don’t ya think? Don’t know what voices Jill is listening to? Oh wait, maybe the ones from her photobucket video of her smoking week and drinking voices?

      • All of the schools in the district were on lockdown. And I also have yet to hear about kids peeing and puking under desks. Although, I have heard that the teachers of these elementary school children kept them calm and followed lockdown procedures. Which is actually a testament to the Steubenville city’s teachers and staff.

        • So not only is Jill lying to create more chaos and drama but she is implying teachers and staff did not do their jobs to maintain order? Interesting cause I have heard nothing but praise for the lockdown to keep kids safe and orderly at the time. Proves she only lost it because Robin Sax called her out for coming to LA. Her son should be in school not on Dr. Phil or Anderson Cooper defending his friends so blindly.

      • Jackie, high school is not one word! OK , commence to the pop bottle…

  13. Dear Harold

    I’ve been away …from the fray…but i see that you have not gone away

    and what you write…is still the most important “back story” and i believe actually the most important story of what is to come of this case…after the children’s issues are resolved one way or another…

    the juvenile justice system is the proper place for this case despite many calls for the higher adult courts because of the seriousness of the original allegations, which we re heard by teh experienced judge and in part, as far as the kidnapping is concerned…not supported by what he was presented in court of law…

    …but…the seriousness remains and the injury to the victims remain

    but i believe what you detail and seroiusly challenge is the real after effect of what the case’s fall out purports for those observers from in and out of town and those from very far away…..

    many wonder out loud, rightly so, in my view, when they look or gaze upon the river city, and they write of with amazing dumbfoundness…at the seeming “culture of corruption” in this town

    and they …may not be so correct as to the very fine details of this case….but they sense….something is very rotten in Steubenville and this is why this case remains..relevant…beyond the pure ‘young girl rape’ issue…

    which has stunned the nation…and beyond

    …what people who observe this “deeper narrative” are sensing is what you are touching upon….

    that the city is…for better or worse…extremely controlled, if not deeply mired in conflict and worse….

    its a moral blindness …which can only be found in such societies which are extremely controlled…

    and nations which are in history, like those found in former soviet union or third world dictatorships

    …in the end, you’re very right when you say…it is time for jane hanlin and the democratic party here to do what has been needed for a very long time

    they need the equivalent of a “colon cleanse”…maybe they need
    a full scale…colonoscopy

    ….its the corruption of those whom u detailed…inside the present courthouse ‘crew’….

    not so much the alleged “rape crew”…that has sent this case spiraling into the social media and beyond….which caused the case’s prosecution to seem “out of balance” with the alleged facts…especially where the local police chief keeps a stiff smile and self satisfied explaination that “while we saw a lot of a young woman naked body ….on pics and vidoes at first

    well…..there’s nothing we can do about this?

    now…doesn’t that sound like a good police chief who was appointed by….

    not so much the feds…but “the firm”….

    [the city is so ready to state to the public…”he was vetted and approaved by the federal authorities”

    is that really the case?

    perhaps, indeed, in the alternative yes…..

    but there’s a second background story to that appointment from within the ranks of the SPD ….that the feds..’consented to”

    and it wasn’t again…as you have so well detailed…before about nearly every other important appointment in town

    that the Bruzzesse’s didn’t have something serious to say …back to the feds…about the hiring of our nice Mr. Smily
    police chief…

    he’s so nice and accommodating and he seems downright giddy about the factx that the city had a federal consent decree policing the police for over 7 yrs

    and he ought to be…because w/o it…he would not have had his job…

    but the police chief…clearly was only a compromise appointee AFTER the bruzzess clan decidedly fought against the Federal authorities wanting to choose an OUTSIDER for the City’s police chief position AFTER Irish guy left …office in late 2000

    this interim choice…was fought over seriously….and the locals wanted to push “home rule” over that of a “federal power appointee” and the feds…oddly..on this point…even at the point of joe bruzzess making a court decision clearly…[of course ..a

  14. the home rule aspect of maintaining “local control” over the police dept and its cheif appointment decision

    the feds compromised….and they looked for someone who wasn’t part of the headbeating crowd of the Irishman’s good ol days

    they had to look for a young fresh face….and wala..one was offered up…

    and to everyone’s delight….up comes the not so “earned by his spurs”..guy….smiling Billy McCafferty…w/ his nice high sweater collared look

    …anyways…what he is, he isn’t one that would dare go against what the home town boys and girls club of steubenville would ever want him to …

    he owes his job to those in the organization as much as Jane does…in many ways…and tho his kids don’t attend city schools…

    he has been strongly backed these same folks, in low places…for years…in fact, ever since he arrived in his brand new mazda rotary vehicle engined position…

    ….

    but i digress…

    the point being….even the feds compromised with the “city fathers”…early on…in their own oversight of this city…

    and when they decided to write a few of their obsevations about why the city wasn’t rapidly “enough” changing ….into a modern police force…

    the city’s federal auditor…cited….NOT THE POLICE CHIEF OF THE OFFICERS

    but the “culture of the city fathers”…in their official reports

    its all found online at the DOJ official website documents…about their quarterly reports…that have been smartly reposted by some enterprising folks who have taken their time and deciedly posted, and looked at the actual meaning of the consent decree and not JUST LABLED IT AS “OUTSIDE OVERSIGHT”

    the end being….for this part of this ramble

    ….”the city fathers” as even the outside “auditor” refered to the “firm” as…

    we clearly delineated by the federal auditor….

    as being the true cause of lack of reform and early change even WHILE THE FEDS WERE DIRECTLY OVERSEEING THE SPD

    EVEN WHILE THE FEDS WERE IN TOWN…THE BRASS BALLS THE CITY FATHERS DISPLAYED TO THEM, WAS CLEARLY NOTED…IN THESE EARLY QUARTERLY REPORTS

    ….AND THERE’S MORE…

    BUT FOR NOW…WHO ARE ‘THESE CITY FATHERS”….THAT THE FEDERAL DOJ OFFICIALS NOTED AND WROTE ABOUT IN THE OFFICIAL OVERSIGHT REPORTS LISTED BY THEIR DUTIFUL REPORTING AS REQUIRED BY THE FEDRAL CONSENT DECREE OVER THE CITY ITSELF???

    WERE THEY THE WEAK SISTER DOM MUCCI?…HE HAS NO POWER TO COMPEL OR NOT TO COMPEL THE CITY POLICE TO REFORM…THO HE TRULY MARCHES TO TEH BEAT OF A DRUMMER OTHER THAN HIS OWN …

    …COULD IT BE THE CITY AUDITOR OR ENGINEER? I DONT THINK SO

    WAS IT THE EVER COMPLIANT….CITY LAW DIRECTOR

    NOW THAT’S INTEERSTING THOT…BUT ANYONE WHO KNOW GARY REPELLA KNOWS THERE NEVER BEEN AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT IN HIS BRAIN SINCE HIS HIGH SCHOOL DAYS…

    …MAYBE…JUST MAYBE..’THE CITY FATHER’S…

    IS……

    WELL….HAROLD STAR…I THINK ILL LEAVE IT THERE…ITS GETTING LATE…

    LETS BEGIN AGAIN SHALL WE…

    AND PERHAPS, THIS TIME…I WILL MENTION JUST ONE NAME AS I LEAVE THIS ALONE FOR ANOTHER NITE OR TWO

    JUST LETS ADD…TO THE GOLDERN DAYS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

    AFTER HUGO ALEXANDER

    THE NAME…DR MACEDONIA….AND WELL HELL..I’LL EVEN ADD…
    SAM GAYLOYD…TO ONE UP U….

    LETS PLAY A LITTLE POKER SHALL WE….JUST LIKE THOSE OF WHOM WE WRITE….

    I THINK BETWEEN US…WE JUST MAY BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN AS WELL AS ENGLIGHTEN…

    ALL UNTIL …OUR PRIVACY IS …
    MADE AVAIABLE…FOR THE DEMOCRACTIC NOT SO DEMOCRATIC PARTY…

    CAN DISCOVER THE SKIRTS OF THOSE WHOM THEY SUPPORT…

    • For starters: “Brassie” Lonetta; George Johnson; Leon Stinson; Joe Perrone; Mele Vukelic; Robert Palumbo; Jean Barren; Officer Friendly George Thomas; Steve Gilletti; Adam Scurti; Richard Delatore; Abe Pearlman; Chuck Klassic; Alvan Savinell; Gus Evans; Art Bowers; Pete McKeegan; Old Dr. Macedonia at Keagler Estates; Pete & Moe’s; The Green Mill; Grumet’s; Wolf Run; Pottery Addition; Yellow Creek and The Rex Cigar Store.

  15. Radio: Question for you…Is posting thoughts while drunk legal??

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    • Just spent an hour reading Harold stars posts.

      My gut told me Frank was rotten to the core the moment he went on his flailing offensive. It seemed to me like the opposite move a clever attorney would make and more the move of a cornered gangster. Harolds facts show me my gut still has the right stuff.

  17. So incestuous…

  18. About the lockdown and the elementary school being in the high school. First of all, I have three grandchildren who attend Wells Academy, the elementary school housed in the high school. There are locked doors that keep the high schoolers off the ONE floor the elementary school kids occupy. There is NO way for young children to get into the high school and no way for the high schoolers to access the elementary school. Secondly, I was with my grandchildren the day of the lockdown (kindergarten, first and second graders) The way the teachers handled the situation, none of the kids were stressed or upset when that arrived at our house. The oldest one had a few questions, but none of them, or their classmates, (according to our kids) were overly upset. No mention of peeing, pooping or throwing up. And for some reason, knowing my grandkids, that would have been the first thing out of the mouths.

    • Thank you for coming here with your testimonial. I had a hunch it was an unfounded claim and have yet to hear another thing about such a thing in the schools.

  19. - Seems there are a lot of people doubting her claims:

    Unhinged Steubenville Mom Claims Local Kids Are Puking Under Tent Desks in Fear via Jezebel

    http://jezebel.com/5977106/unhinged-steubenville-mom-claims-local-kids-are-puking-under-tent-desks-in-fear

  20. if we are still talking about the legal issues and the background to steubenville

    yes, there were those and also there were many others

    some mentioned were not as strong as it appeared but shall we not forget

    the many folks surrounding the older dem party, who were truly in the know…

    what is clear, however, is among these mentioned, there was a certain kind of old school loyalty…brassie and alvin and others were all…to themselves…and their close friends, extremely loyal to the cause…

    …but today, i don’t think this crowd is loyal except to mother green….

    and whoever can produce or maintain the flow….towards that one goal

    … but we have something agan, i wish to mention…
    and its important as this present case is now positioned..and how other critical “protection” is made available to this present “dome” over steubenville’s legal community

    again it has to do with the major insurance defense industry contacts and years of loyal service to such powerful entities, and the loyal ties that are forged in the heat of battle..

    the battle over legal liablity and serious medical and personal injury and other municipality liablity claims…

    …..this kind of loyalty buys you political cover as well…if you practice insurance defense liablity law anywhere…especially in large metro regions

    but given the nature of the beast here…its has also created a strange anomaly…in the political relm

    steubenville..w/all of its colorful history and past ties to what ever Las Vegas and Atlantic City and other infamous cities could tell…the glory days of the rat pack…

    ….what is clear today…is those who inhabit the present political clothing called the ‘democratic party”…are..

    well..not what the good old days of major union boss democratic politics ever was…

    today….jefferson’s democratic party leaders are …but thinly veiled wolves in sheep clothing…

    the fact that FRank Bruzzesse and his “cabal” of interests are known nto be “democratic party leaders”…in our region and have mainly backed all the local dem in name local poiticians that exist..in one form or another and have also hand picked others, like calamity jane

    ….and others

    …its clear…what they do for a daily bread and for their waking adult lives…for the most part…has nothing whatsoever to do with promoting the ideals espoused at least, by the FDR TRuman Kennedy democratic party ideals…

    i.e….you can’t practice major insurance defense law, support every possible major insurance industry backed initiative and fight for the major institutional entities, who are being sued by common ordinary plaintiffs for their serious injuries…

    and call yourself…a leading democratic party figure or pillar…

    when you cross into the field of defending municipalities as Joe B has foryears and now hisc hildren and children’s children do…

    and they support every single liability carrier’s interest in one form or another…

    by virture of their legal monopolopy….on the local courtroom and jeff county legal practice for better or worse..

    and also providing constantly aid and comfort not to the injuried parties suing the local govts in one capacity or another…

    its not a law firm….that is devoted like so many other major democratic leaning law firms and practitioners have…and do

    dailey…

    they simply do NOT represent at any time during their day…for the most part…

    the best interests of those injured citizens….who care to bring a suit on behalf of their loved one’s being either killed or seriously maimed by local medical malpractice

    most democratic genuine lawyers.. represent those injured in car accidents….for the most part..[unless its a done deal ahead of time] and NOT THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY deep pockets…

    its totally inconsistent to say your ideals and your sentiments line up with the poor and disenfranchised and the ordinary working classes of america and evenour local region such as this

    and then….exclusively and constantly represent the law and order crowd over those who may have a problem with being falsely accused, falsely arrested and/or prosecuted into jail cells….and sometimes…as we can see by virture of the steubenville civil rights deep problems…

    have this law firm consistently take the side of those who were doing the beating…not becazuse they love individual police officers so much…even if they do

    but rather because….they have deep ties to the municipality itself and the insurance carriers and the contracts…etc…

    that attend to those who defend such tactics…

    of course….money being the most important link between them and their ideals…

    the democratic party ideals can sometimes…also be worn like a nice overcoat by these “amazinglyl gifted lawyers”

    …..but…most often…given its a small town…

    these individuals who make up the “firm” represent the ‘sure money”…the “sure bet”

    and everyone knows…one doesn’t get rich from suing city hall….very often..anyways

    but one can make a very nice practice…by representing city hall

    …via the huge ,municipal insurer liabilty programs…

    again…the harvard lawyer types…don’t usually get directly involved in these defenses always….often times, out of town counsel get involved

    but …there are fingerprints…often…of what and who interests and “side” the “firm” would and does come down on in defending…

    not the injured or the alleged victim of govt abuse or even official misconduct

    ….its usually….the “other guys”….and those tend to be the true liberals…

    there’s more to the political makeup and yes..hypocrisy of the “firm”….in relation to how they run …so undemocractically

    both the local courthouses…city hall and….the county dem party

    how ironic..it remains “democratic” …at least in name, they remain consistent to the past….in name…not in character nor spirit….

    and again…if brassi l and others, like him were anything…they were loyal to the party line….that did stand with the kennedy /truman/fdr ideals….that was created out of the ordinary citizens yearning for justice and better life and the poor…and those who gave a damn about their fellow citizsens, more so, than did the super elite wealthy and all those who only believe politics existed for and by …

    the top well….1 % for then and now…

    ….i don’t think this is the ethic of those who presently make up the present democratic party….so called of jefferson county

    what does this have to do with the present case and present county status of cover ups?

    everything….

    because….who is in power and have been in power for the past twenty years in Ohio…except for the rather moderate to conserv ate Ted STrickland so loved by joHN a?

    THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL AND STATE PARTY IS BASED IN LARGE PART ON THE UNDERLYING MONEY GENERATED BY THE HUGE CORPORATE INTERESTS IN OHIO…AND AMONG THE LEADING CORPORATE INTERESTS LOCATED EXPRESLLY IN OHIO…IS THE MAJOR INSURANCE INDUSTRY NAMES OF NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL CARRIERS….STATE FARM, PROGRESSIVE, FRANKLIN, FARMERS, NATIONWIDE

    ETC.ETC..ETC

    AND THESE ARE THE UNDERLYING POWERS OF THE STATE OF OHIO’S REPUBLICAN PARTY …AND MORE IMPORTANTLY…THE PRESENT STATE SURPREME COURT WHICH IS NEARLY ALL REPUBLICAN…AND HAD BEEN UNTIL VERY RECENTLY ALL REPUBLICAN

    SO WHAT DO YOU BUY WHEN YOU REPRESENT SUCH IMPORTANT MONETARY CORPORATE INTERESTS EVEN IN A REGIOH SUCH AS THIS?

    POWERFUL FRIENDS…IN AND AROUND THE HIGHEST OFFICIALS OF THIS STATE’S LEGAL MACHINERY

    I WILL END IT THERE FOR THE FORENIGHT…AND WE WILL GO FURTHER…IF OTHERS SO MENTION THEY WANT IT…

  21. My comments are about the Dr. Phil show….all of the above makes my head spin and have no desire to debate.

    I tivo’d the show, and watched it 2 times… the blonde was applauded by the members of the audience several times, UNTIL she mentioned the victim may be lying…Dr. Phil jumped on that and she backed down. This woman is so insignificant to the entire process, I dont get the obsession. I also find it insulting, as an adult, so many comments have to do with her “mole” or physical apperance…perhaps my priorities or morals regarding this case are not in touch with the fashion patrol.

  22. jnet, I understand where you are coming from however, she opened herself up when she made a total ass out of herself on national television. I am from Steubenville, my kids go to big red schools and she lied. They had a one day lockdown, the whole tent issue and people vomiting and pissing their pants is crap.
    IMO, She deserves all of this and more. I know her, she is a joke. She has zero involvement in this case and wanted to be a fame whore. Her son is not even best friends with these boys, he is nothing to them and not much of a “celebrity” football player. Dr. Phil got taken for a ride to LA. These boys involved need to pay and the rock dwellers need to crawl back from where they spewed from.

    • “Her son is not even best friends with these boys, he is nothing to them and not much of a “celebrity” football player.”

      He’s a benchwarmer, lol, just look at that big lump.

      • I absolutely agree her son was/is no more than a “wanna be” jock or popular. That’s pretty obvious, sad to say, but in our society it is a reality judgements are based on looks…or athetic abilty.

        I do not agree with this woman, nor the way she presented herself; however I do find it disconcerting that the entire blog for the last several days has been how these boys have no respect for women, “GASP” no one taught them any different, yet a lot of the comments are doing exactly the same of cruel name calling and judgemental attitudes based on appearance. I just find it all confusing, or double standards.

  23. inSTA KARMA

    I do look forward to your posts as well as Herald Stars. It shouldn’t be difficult to corroborate this information via Newspaper articles and/or official court documents. Once all this information is in order and corroborated the picture painted in very clear. The question is once it is together what to do with it?

    • Harold not Herald :)
      It’s habit typing Herald

      • Thank you. It is Harold not Herald. The last name is actually Starr (with two Rs). My family left off the last S years before I was born. My uncle’s family kept the last S. You may remember Kenneth Starr. He was the independent counsel hired to investigate Bill Clinton. His investigation let to the impeachment and law liscense suspension of the former president. Ken Starr is now President of Baylor University.

        • I have a question for you, there’s an article in the Herald Star titled: Gullen, Radakovich to serve as coaches. Towards the bottom it says two things I’m curious about:
          (1) Approved to retain Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin as an attorney to provide legal council for the district.
          (2) Approved to retain the firm of Britton, Smith, Peters and Kalail as attorneys to represent the district during contract negotiations.

          First question is in other counties in Ohio the prosecutor by default because of being the prosecutor is the attorney for the school board as well as the other publicly funded boards/entities. Wouldn’t she by default be the attorney to provide legal council for the district? It almost seems like she was hired through her private practice and if that is the case is that even legal? If she was hired through her private practice then her services would be paid for through the district’s money would it not? If this is how it is set up she would then be paid from two different funds for the same service. I would think her duties as the prosecutor would have her representing the district already so hiring her through her private practice would seem like just a way to gain more money, nothing more nothing less. I may be totally wrong about this, she may not have to represent the district by default and the district may not have hired her through her private practice.I don’t know the article isn’t very clear on this and is why I’m asking.
          Second question would be if they retained Jane Hanlin then why would they also need to retain yet another firm? Wouldn’t one be enough, considering every school district’s budget was affected why waste tax payer money on these different lawyers?

          As always this is just an opinion and not to be considered as fact by anyone. Responses/Corrections are welcomed, encouraged, and wanted. Should anyone correct my opinion please take that correction to be the truth and regard my opinion as null and void.

  24. No the prosecuting atty. is not the atty. for the school district. Schools get their own atty. that is in private practice. Prosecutor just responsible for prosecuting people that are charged with a crime. School District is not in the same entity as the county government.